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Who / what was the G1 Marvel comics' "Shingo"?
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JosephBardsley
2024-10-12 11:26:12 UTC
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Been rereading my old Marvel issues lately, and was wondering about
this.

For those not in the know, "Shingo" was an elusive, recurring reference
in the G1 letters column to a fan / reader that other readers and letter
writers to the book would sometimes reference. They were always looking
for this person, or encouraging them to write in.

It's not clear to me if this person/entity was a fan, involved with the
comic in some way, or simply an invention all their own.

Who was "Shingp"? Was this ever clarified or disclosed?

Hope everyone's doing well,

JB
Swivelbot
2024-10-12 13:56:00 UTC
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Post by JosephBardsley
It's not clear to me if this person/entity was a fan, involved with the
comic in some way, or simply an invention all their own.


Who was "Shingo"? Was this ever clarified or disclosed?
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According to this CBR Article
(https://www.cbr.com/transformers-shingo-contest/) and this TFwiki Page
(https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Shingo)

Shingo was an 8-Year Old child who's older cousin John Kamatani
mentioned in the letters page of The US Comic (Issue #18) Apparently he
"Thought Transformers Were Cool"

The Letters Column ran with this, Making Numerous References to this
person, even running a contest to "Find Shingo's Signature" within the
pages of the comic, apparently they were in "Totaled!"

Where this person is now? We have no idea. But if they were 8 Years Old
in 1986, when "The Bridge to Nowhere!" was published, they'd be 46 now.

Swivelbot
Zobovor
2024-10-12 23:18:25 UTC
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Post by JosephBardsley
It's not clear to me if this person/entity was a fan, involved with the
comic in some way, or simply an invention all their own.
I've really come to suspect that the Marvel offices enjoyed a very
laid-back and jokey attitude. Moreover, I think that while the
high-profile titles like X-Men or Wolverine enjoyed a certain degree of
prestige, the lesser titles (and especially the books based on toy
lines) were considered less important, and as a result, the staff
working on those books probably took their jobs as unseriously as
possible.

So, anybody who was working on the Transformers title, especially in the
beginning, recognized that the whole thing was one big joke. It was a
comic book about cars that drove down the street until they sprouted
arms and legs and started talking to each other. That's not something
an adult will take seriously. The jokey, casual attitude towards this
concept crept into the comic book itself, with side characters spouting
quippy remarks during supposed life-and-death situations. I think the
bathos was the way of the Marvel staff dealing with the inherent
silliness of creating a comic book about gigantic outer space robots who
disguise themselves as Porsches and F-15's.

But then the joke grew old, and the comic book unexpectedly gained
enough popularity to last for a number of years. So it was time to joke
about something else. I think this was around the time the Shingo
letter was submitted to the editor, and I have no doubt the Marvel staff
had a field day with it. It's easy to latch onto something memorable
like the name Shingo (it's a little bit like Ringo!) and I have no doubt
it became an inside joke at the Marvel offices. How do you think Shingo
takes his coffee? I think I shared a cab with Shingo on the way to
Midtown. We'd better not miss this deadline or else Shingo will yell at
us. And so it went, most likely. The original author of the letter
became almost immaterial by this point.

So I expect the obsession with Shingo eventually seeped its way into the
letters column (hey, we haven't gotten a letter from Shingo in a while)
and even the pages of the artwork itself (pretending that Shingo
"really" infiltrated the Marvel studios and inserted his name into the
pages of the comic book). On the outside, looking in, we as the readers
had absolutely no idea who Shingo was or what his significance was
supposed to be, but that's mainly because we weren't privy to the inside
gag.

In other words, I think it was just something the staff on TRANSFORMERS
was doing to make their jobs quirky and fun and more easy to endure,
especially the staff members who didn't like being stuck on a dumb comic
book about robot toys who only joined up with Marvel because they had
dreams of one day drawing Spider-Man professionally or writing stories
about The Incredible Hulk. It was just goofy, silly nonsense that they
probably took way too far.


Zob (Shingo or Shinstay, doesn't Shinmatter either Shinway)
GoBackaTron
2024-10-13 17:20:50 UTC
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Post by Zobovor
I think it was just something the staff on TRANSFORMERS
was doing to make their jobs quirky and fun and more easy to endure,
especially the staff members who didn't like being stuck on a dumb comic
book about robot toys who only joined up with Marvel because they had
dreams of one day drawing Spider-Man professionally or writing stories
about The Incredible Hulk.
Budiansky once said that he was the one who wrote the responses on the
letters page. I wouldn't be surprised if the staff members you are
referring to were actually all just him. It makes sense to me that
Shingo is a manifestation of his burnout.
JosephBardsley
2024-10-17 05:16:06 UTC
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Huh! All of this is very interesting, and much more arcane than I
thought. For some reason, I had connected the concept of Shingo to a
fan, or fans in Hawaii - perhaps owing, in part, to the name - but of
course Zob's real-world explanation makes a lot more sense.

I love thinking about things like this. If Shingo really was a real
person, they'd be just a couple of years older than me today.

JB

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