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So did anyone see Transformers One?
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Travoltron
2024-09-24 18:08:17 UTC
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It lost to Beetlejuice 2 on its debut weekend. Not a good sign.

I'm wondering what you guys thought of it.

It seems like every time this movie franchise goes in the right
direction it bombs and whenever they go Full [Michael Bay] it's a hit. I
don't get it.

Maybe this explains it, who knows.

https://www.thewrap.com/transformers-one-box-office-explained-why-it-underperformed/
Rodimus_2316
2024-09-26 20:38:39 UTC
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Transformers One recap and thoughts (SPOILERS BELOW)
Rodimus_2316
2024-09-26 20:45:42 UTC
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Transformers One recap and thoughts (SPOILERS BELOW)

Recap: Orion Pax and D-16, best buds, work as cog-less (no device inside
them that lets them transform) robots that work in a mine with other
cog-less Cybertronians. There's also some talk of the original Primes,
the first Cybertronians created by Primus, the robot god who made
himself into Cybertron. Sentinel Prime, the leader of all Cybertronians
(no Autobots or Decepticons yet, just all who live underground on
Cybertron for some reason), who says he's still looking for the Matrix
of Leadership since the battle with the enemy Quintessons, has another
"Iacon 5000" race for transformable Cybertronians, which Orion and D
take place in with jetpacks not previously approved of. While they
don't win, Sentinel isn't impressed, he wants to reward them, but then
one of their bully, force-to-work bosses named "Darkwing" puts them down
in the center of Cybertron, where they run into B-127, a good bot who's
been down there for quite awhile, and Elita-1, who got there because of
stuff Pax and D had done earlier in the movie. They somehow work their
way to the surface, only to discover the remains of Alpha Trion and
other deactivated Primes. They give AT some energon, and he comes back
to life, and explains about Cybertron's long enemy, the Quintessons,
have ruled over the top of Cybetron for a long time, as Sentinel
betrayed the Primes, killing them and him, now since them works for the
Quintessons. Also, the cog-less Cybertronians DID have cogs, but they
were removed. AT then gives the four their own cogs, but it takes
awhile through to the end of the film for them to master transforming.
The four actually see this with their own eyes on the surface too. Pax,
D, Elita, and B then make their way back below. They find this
underground fighter group, made up of to-be-Decepticons, led by
Starscream, who agree to work with them, and Pax also rallies the
cog-less to fight with them also. They expose Sentinel to the populace
with a video of him talking about his duplicity. D tries to kill
Sentinel with his new cannon, but Pax gets in the way. He shoots him,
mortally-wounding him, and D grabs him before he falls into a massive
pit. D finally says he's done saving him, lets him go, and a presumably
falls to his death. D does then kill Sentinel. Pax encounters the
essence of Primus inside the Cybertron, in the pit, who reformats him
into Optimus Prime, and gives him the long-lost Matrix of Leadership.
Prime and D, who now calls himself Megatron, have it out, then Prime
wins, and orders Megs and his now troops to leave the area and don't
come back. Prime becomes the leader of a group calling themselves
Autobots, and Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons elsewhere,
naming himself after Megatronus Prime, who he idolized as D-16, and
their faction symbol somewhat resembling the face of Megatronus.


Sorry if I got anything wrong or left out anything significant here.
Please correct me if I did. Only saw it once and don't remember
everything.

Great film! Great storyline and very intriging! Lots of brief G1
character cameos, who I can remember off the top of my head: Jazz, Red
Alert, Ironhide, and Arcee.

Anyone else also have thoughts?


- Rodimus_2316
Rodimus_2316
2024-09-26 21:09:30 UTC
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Mistakes fixed:

Transformers One recap and thoughts (SPOILERS BELOW)

Recap: Orion Pax and D-16, best buds, work as cog-less (no device inside
them that lets them transform) robots that work in a mine with other
cog-less Cybertronians. There's also some talk of the original Primes,
the first Cybertronians created by Primus, the robot god who made
himself into Cybertron. Sentinel Prime, the leader of all Cybertronians
(no Autobots or Decepticons yet, just all who live underground on
Cybertron for some reason), who says he's still looking for the Matrix
of Leadership since the battle with the enemy Quintessons, has another
"Iacon 5000" race for transformable Cybertronians, which Orion and D
take place in with jetpacks not previously approved of. While they
don't win, Sentinel is impressed, he wants to reward them, but then one
of their bully, force-to-work bosses named "Darkwing" puts them down in
the center of Cybertron, where they run into B-127, a good bot who's
been down there for quite awhile, and Elita-1, who got there because of
stuff Pax and D had done earlier in the movie. They somehow work their
way to the surface, only to discover the remains of Alpha Trion and
other deactivated Primes. They give AT some energon, and he comes back
to life, and explains about Cybertron's long enemy, the Quintessons,
have ruled over the top of Cybetron for a long time, as Sentinel
betrayed the Primes, killing them and him, now since then works for the
Quintessons. Also, AT says the cog-less Cybertronians DID have cogs,
but they were removed. AT finally gives the four their own cogs, but it
takes awhile through to the end of the film for them to fully master
transforming. The four actually see Sentinel and the Quintessons with
their own eyes on the surface too, working together. Pax, D, Elita, and
B then make their way back below. They find this underground fighter
group, made up of to-be-Decepticons, led by Starscream, who agree to
work with them, and Pax also rallies the cog-less minors to fight with
them also. They expose Sentinel to the populace with a video of him
talking about his duplicity. D tries to kill Sentinel with his new
cannon, but Pax gets in the way. He shoots him, mortally-wounding him,
and D grabs him before he falls into a massive pit. D finally says he's
done saving him, lets him go, and a presumably falls to his death. D
does then kill Sentinel. Pax encounters the essence of Primus inside
the Cybertron, in the pit, who reformats him into Optimus Prime, and
gives him the long-lost Matrix of Leadership. Prime and D, who now
calls himself Megatron, have it out, then Prime wins, and orders Megs
and his now troops to leave the area and don't come back. Prime becomes
the leader of a group calling themselves Autobots, and Megatron is the
leader of the Decepticons elsewhere, naming himself after Megatronus
Prime, who he idolized as D-16, and their faction symbol somewhat
resembling the face of Megatronus.


Sorry if I got anything wrong or left out anything significant here.
Please correct me if I did. Only saw it once and don't remember
everything.

Great film! Great storyline and very intriging! Lots of brief G1
character cameos, who I can remember off the top of my head: Jazz, Red
Alert, Ironhide, and Arcee.

Anyone else also have thoughts?


- Rodimus_2316
Nooneinparticular
2024-09-27 00:48:42 UTC
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We saw it last weekend. I enjoyed it more than any TF movie since the 86
movie. And I have to say objectively I thought it was actually a better
movie,but nostalgia is a powerful drug.



Brian
GoBackaTron
2024-09-27 14:53:54 UTC
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I feel like a Batman fan who had to grow up with the campy Adam West
show all their life, then with their best fandom days behind them is
when Batman '89 comes out. I feel like the old hag who finally gets to
see a unicorn but it does her no good because the magic is only for
young maidens. I'm glad I got to see it in my lifetime because it was
beautiful and everything I ever wanted but I'm in my 50s now and I'm all
out of fandom viagra.
Zobovor
2024-09-28 14:42:35 UTC
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Post by Travoltron
I'm wondering what you guys thought of it.
I didn't see it. For those who went to see it and enjoyed it, I'm glad.
I don't want to yuck anybody's yum.

But, the trailers made it look so completely goofy and silly. I don't
mind when Transformers is funny, but I don't need it to be absurd. My
feeling is that Hasbro saw how well the TMNT Mutant Mayhem movie did (in
which the Ninja Turtles were turned into obnoxious dumbasses) and they
went, "Hey, can we do this same thing, only for Transformers?"

I feel like the Marvel cinematic universe injected a healthy portion of
bathos into contemporary storytelling and we just never recovered from
that. The Marvel movies were successful, so ever since then,
everybody's been trying to copy that same formula. But, there's still a
place in this world for stories and characters that actually take
themselves seriously. It's just not terribly trendy in mainstream media
at the moment, so you don't see a lot of it.


Zob (might watch it when it makes it to Netflix or something)
Travoltron
2024-09-28 17:47:48 UTC
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Post by Zobovor
But, the trailers made it look so completely goofy and silly.
Same, so I skipped it. But people are saying that trailer is deceptive
and doesn't accurately represent the film.

I hate going to the theater. It's expensive, people annoy me, and it's
too loud and aggravates my tinnitus.

I feel bad for this movie, but I'd rather just wait for the UHD Blu-ray
and support it that way.
GoBackaTron
2024-09-28 23:05:35 UTC
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Post by Travoltron
I hate going to the theater. It's expensive, people annoy me, and it's
too loud and aggravates my tinnitus.
I have all those considerations as well and I bought the tickets for 3D
anyway. I sure as shit wasnt going to miss the theatical release of only
the second TF cartoon movie ever. These things only happen once in a
while and it's truly a miracle that they happen at all. The end may
already be upon us.

I didn't care what the critics said in '86 and I don't care what they
say today. I don't care if anyone else goes. I'll take this one as a
personal love letter to me from Hasbro, which I deserve because God
knows everything else they do drives me crazy.

It was glorious. 3D is one experience I cannot replicate adequately even
with my home setup. I might seek it out in IMax tomorrow if I can.
Travoltron
2024-09-30 19:13:18 UTC
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I wish they hadn't made the same mistake as TF:TM 1986 and blown half
the budget on celebrity voices. It didn't draw in anybody in 1986 and
it's not drawing them in now.
CodigoPostal
2024-10-01 14:07:59 UTC
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It's a real shame that the first TF movie to be so well-received from a
critical and audience standpoint...is also bombing at the box office.

Why?

So many possible reasons. Prequel aversion, franchise fatigue, aversion
to animation, the sense from the trailers that this would be a purely
kiddy enterprise on the level of Earthspark/RID15 et al....

This is what fans have been asking for. A mature take on the franchise
set on Cybertron, without humans, that takes our characters seriously as
characters. And its failure saddens me because it sends the wrong
message to Hasbro and Hollywood, namely, immature, loud, vulgar, Bay
films = success, while mature, well-told takes = failure.

Maybe it's time for TF to take a break from the big screen for a while,
so audiences have a chance to miss it, and rediscover it again...
GoBackaTron
2024-09-28 23:14:00 UTC
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Post by Zobovor
Zob (might watch it when it makes it to Netflix or something)
Oh there's no 'might' about it. We all know you're gonna see it
eventually. I remember you writing about how a driving motivation behind
your collecting was to be able to participate in conversations about
figures with the credibility that only comes from experiencing them
firsthand. And the movie is part of the experience for these toys.

This movie is going to be an important aspect of every studio series
release born from it so it is a must watch from a toy reviewer
standpoint. Otherwise your opinions on future TF One toy releases are
uninformed and you cant comment on aspects like screen accuracy. Heck,
you pretty much have to own the home video version now.
GustavoWombat
2024-10-03 08:32:41 UTC
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Post by Travoltron
It lost to Beetlejuice 2 on its debut weekend. Not a good sign.
I'm wondering what you guys thought of it.
It seems like every time this movie franchise goes in the right
direction it bombs and whenever they go Full [Michael Bay] it's a hit. I
don't get it.
Rise O' The Beasts was a big, bombastic mess in the style of the Michael
Bay movies and it also was a box office disappointment, bringing in
about as much as the cheaper to make Bumblebee.

I haven't seen the movie (I hate movie theaters), but from the
marketing, I have no idea who this movie is for. It looks like it has
the tone of a kids movie, with a washed out palette that makes it less
appealing to
them.

And the CGI looks... bad? Maybe I'm just not a fan of the
everything-is-shiny-metallic style. It looks dated. And bland. And
soulless. And cheap.

I like the Prime Changer toys that I've gotten, but they don't inspire
me to run out and see the movie.

I do wonder if a Go-Bots movie would have done better. At least it
wouldn't be a low-budget animated maybe-spinoff of the Michael Bay
movies. (It could be its own low-budget animated thing)
CodigoPostal
2024-10-28 18:32:08 UTC
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My two cents:

- The film's failure is definitely due in part to the terrible
marketing. I liked the first trailer, but it definitely seemed aimed at
the kiddie set, and not something an adult would choose to see in the
cinema vs waiting for streaming.

- The best piece of TF media since G1, in that it made me feel
something. I actually enjoyed it without the fanboy hat, or rose-colored
glasses. It's just a good movie with some real emotional content. After
years of the fandom collectively wanting someone to take our bots and
cons seriously, this movie finally did, and it paid off creatively in
spades.

- Hemsworth was excellent as the exuberant young Orion Pax, but
surprisingly bad as the mature Optimus. His "transform and roll out" was
cringeworthy. Maybe he was trying not to do a Cullen impression, but
when you're covering such an iconic line, you have to sing it like the
original.

- Bryan Henry was a case of great acting, wrong casting. His voice is so
divorced from what we've come to expect as Megatron that it didn't quite
ring true as a precursor to G1's Big Bad. That's a fault of the casting
director. On the plus side, he gave an impassioned and nuanced
performance that's one of the most memorable (in a good way) TF
performances in ages.

- Keegan Michael Key was legitimately funny, if slightly much at times.
I actually laughed out loud at some of the comedy bits, especially when
he was captured by the High Guard. Great to see humor in a TF movie that
isn't dependent on something crass or offensive.

- No good deed goes unpunished. We get a beyond phenomenal film that
works both as a TF film and just as a really good piece of commercial
art....and no one goes to see it (marketing, franchise fatigue, COVID
killing the cinema experience, you name it). It's a crying shame. This
is the film that I would love to see the general public point to as
defining the franchise moving forward - gorgeous visuals, strong
characterization, a powerful score, emotional performances, and a social
message to boot. This is what TF can be - an all ages, family friendly,
sci-fi adventure hero's journey flick that everyone can enjoy.

(Anyone else think it was a shame they didn't bring in Cullen for one
final line at the end?)
Travoltron
2024-11-17 19:31:32 UTC
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I finally saw it! I really enjoyed seeing all the cameos in the crowd
scenes.
Post by CodigoPostal
(Anyone else think it was a shame they didn't bring in Cullen for one
final line at the end?)
He should have played Alpha Trion. Fishburne did a fine job, but I don't
really think the celebrity voices did anything to help the box office.

I could nitpick the things I didn't like, but I mainly didn't get the
ending. Megatron was right to kill Sentinel. I don't get why Optimus
stupidly threw himself in front of Sentinel like that. He wasn't worth
protecting, let alone sacrificing oneself for.

I do regret not seeing it in the theater. I had already seen the
disappointing More Than Meets the Eye redub thing in the theater this
year. I felt embarrassed to invite my friends to go see yet another TF
movie that had a high chance of sucking,

I hope by some miracle that Transformers Two becomes a reality. And I
hope they cut better trailers next time.
GustavoWombat
2024-11-18 00:42:43 UTC
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I also finally got around to watching “Transformers: One” and it was
fine. Not outstanding, but fine. An entirely reasonable movie.

Easily one of the best Transformers movies, with the only competition
being Bumblebee.

D-16’s character arc was a little clunky. He and Orion kind of papered
over their differences until right near the end, and it really would
have benefitted from a few scenes with them clashing beforehand,
starting small and building. Instead we have D-16 slowly getting angrier
and angrier, and no one really remarking on it.

And then there are the three key moments of D-16s turn – dropping Orion,
declaring the end of the Primes, and his rage at the appearance of
Optimus.

I didn’t buy D-16 saying “I’m done saving you,” in large part because we
didn’t really see D-16 saving Orion all that much, and he never seemed
to bristle at it. The friendship was well established, as was their
willingness to save the other. Orion as the rule-breaker and D-16 as the
more orderly one was an interesting switch.

Orion falling into the center of Cybertron might have been intended as a
2001 homage, but it really looked like a Star Trek: The Motion Picture
homage (which itself had a 2001 homage). It made me want to see ST:TMP
again.

“The era of the Primes is over!” kind of came out of nowhere for someone
who practically worshiped Megatronus, met up with Alpha Trion, and
destroyed a fake Prime. (It wasn’t 100% clear to me whether Sentinel was
a Prime that betrayed everyone, or a lesser robot who betrayed everyone
and then usurped the title… either would work). D-16 was totally into
Orion’s desire to find the Matrix and restore Cybertron, with the only
real difference between them was Orion being the instigator, and D-16
hoping to get patted on the head for giving the Matrix to Sentinel
Prime.

Megatron’s rage at Optimus Prime emerging was… clunky. It seemed out of
character when he let go of Orion’s hand, and it seemed out of character
for him not to be glad to have his friend back. A friends-to-enemies
plot needs more than a single turning point.

Megatron’s turn towards evil seemed really tacked on. Like Magneto’s
turn in the final minutes of “x-men: first class.” No need to rush it
and tack it on, that’s what sequels are for. (Not that there is likely
to be a sequel…).

Ok, this is the second best Transformers movie. Bumblebee was better
because it didn’t have this type of problem.

I would have liked D-16 to not deliberately drop Orion. Just have an arm
fall off or whatever, so it’s an extension of D-16 accidentally shooting
Orion.

“The Era of the Primes is Over” speech then becomes partly about the
rage he feels towards himself for shooting Orion, towards Orion trying
to save Sentinel, and towards Sentinel’s betrayal all at once.
Sentinel’s life wasn’t worth Orion’s death, and D-16 would be angry at
everyone involved.

I would have liked Orion to be dead for a while. And then have Optimus
emerge much later, once Megatron has taken over, and be confronted with
the dystopian hellscape that Megatron has created, where his desire for
revenge and order. And only then shift to enemies, when Megatron knows
that he will never have Optimus’ approval. Whether that is after a time
jump, or in a second movie…

(If they were going for a trilogy, I would have wanted it structured
with One being the defeat of Sentinel and the death of Orion (maybe end
with Optimus getting the Matrix in the heart of Cybertron, to make it
more hopeful). Two would be Optimus emerging after a time skip, and a
very strained relationship with Megatron as they fight the Quintessons,
and Three being the final break. During that time skip between One and
Two, Megatron would have taken command, and be struggling to not be as
bad as Sentinel, and when Optimus arrived there's tension between the
Idealist Optimus, and Megatron who is trying to get things done)

(Given that the biggest expense is celebrity voice actors, I wonder if
making sequels at the same time would have made sense, despite One doing
poorly – how much more expensive is a bit more of Steve Buscemi’s time
once he’s already there? If you drop the cost of movies Two and Three,
they might be successful given their lower cost)

Also, why give Orion and D-16 lips if they aren’t going to kiss?

But, it was perfectly fine. The animation was decent, if a little bland.
It was never a struggle to figure out what is actually happening on
screen (no Bayverse gray balls of sharp bits randomly beating on each
other). The voice acting was great, and the story was ok.

I mostly have nitpicks, and that one big complaint about D-16’s turn.

Onto nitpicks…

The one thing that was really missing was robots in disguise. I get that
it’s set on Cybertron, but robots hiding on an inhabited planet is a key
element of Transformers. It just feels weird not having that be a part
of the story. Having the High Guard hiding mostly in plain sight, rather
than in their lair might have given us that.

They did manage to make Transformers a fallen culture, with the Primes
being dead, the surface uninhabitable, Energon not flowing…

Of all the media in America, I think only Animated really branched from
the “Cybertron is ruined, the Autobots are refugees” pattern, and they
accomplished something similar by having the cast cut off from Cybertron
for the start. Actually, BW did the same, with the same workaround –
plus the Predacons were in tatters before the cartoon started, but it
took them a while to establish that.

Transformers are sort of like the Jewish diaspora, whether that was an
intentional decision made early on when creating the first stories or
not, and it works well for the brand as a whole. The different fictions
have changed what drove the Transformers out into the universe, but it
is almost always a major cataclysm (sometimes self-inflicted, which
makes the connection to the actual Jewish diaspora fairly stretched, but
it’s the most familiar diaspora).

(Battlestar Galactica, on the other hand, is very explicitly intended to
be Space Mormons looking for the promised land — Salt Lake City. And
Revival Era Doctor Who has a diaspora of one...)
GoBackaTron
2024-11-18 23:57:34 UTC
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Post by GustavoWombat
(If they were going for a trilogy, I would have wanted it structured
with One being the defeat of Sentinel and the death of Orion
But then that would leave the movie ending kind of messy with the
least bad (but still bad) bad guys (Megatron and his gang) taking the
only discernible victory. Little Timmy Autobot lover would go back to
third grade the next day kind of sad and confused. And if it didn't ever
get a sequel then it becomes an underground, pro
rebellion/insurrectionist tale that radicalizes a generation of kids.
Because Megatron wins!

(maybe end
Post by GustavoWombat
with Optimus getting the Matrix in the heart of Cybertron, to make it
more hopeful). Two would be Optimus emerging after a time skip, and a
very strained relationship with Megatron as they fight the Quintessons,
If they ever do a sequel then this is most likely what it would be
about anyway-the uprising against the Quintessons. I think the third
movie of this timeline would have been their arrival on Earth.

As it is I think the pacing was great. George Lucas could have
learned a lot about chronicling a character's moral downfall from this
movie.
Travoltron
2024-11-19 02:41:56 UTC
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Oh, I forgot to mention something that made my jaw drop.

I'm sure I've posted this story on a.t.t before. Basically, there was
this period in the early 90s when urban legends were going around about
an "uncut", super EXTREME version of Transformers The Movie. This came
about because kids correctly remembered swearing in the movie that was
removed in home video. But in reality, it was just one swear.

Anyways, I had this friend at school that often told tall tales. He
tells me that in the version of TFTM he saw, Optimus and Megatron were
shouting four-letter words at each other. And then in the next shot,
Optimus raises his fist and gives Megatron the finger. Right at the
"camera" and that his offending hand was like "10 feet tall" and took up
the whole screen. Sure, right.

Well I'll be damned if Orion Pax does this exact thing in this movie,
giving the bird pointblank to a security camera.
CodigoPostal
2024-11-21 18:52:56 UTC
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Post by GustavoWombat
Ok, this is the second best Transformers movie. Bumblebee was better
because it didn’t have this type of problem.
Agreed that the heel turn was tacked on, but would still say that this
is the best TF movie because it actually focuses on developing the
characters of the TFs, rather than treating them like bombastic
distractions from the main event, which as we all know, is the US
military and the lives of random humans.

Bumblebee was a wholly unoriginal and dull 80's cosplay directed by a
nepo baby, and the amount of love on the boards for that film never
ceases to amaze me. Reducing Bumblebee to Odie is unforgivable.
Designing a Con to look like Starscream, then calling him Blitzwing, is
a sin on the level of the random nameslaps from the early 2000's. The
much vaunted opening scene was a last-minute add, and the only reason
the movie gets so much love. It's the only one of the films I've never
rewatched. Hailee Steinfeld is boring. Her character's father didn't
die, he abandoned her because she was so dull. Her neutered male co-star
was completely superfluous. The brother was nearly as obnoxious as
Daniel's son in Cobra Kai.

John Cena was funny and should have been Lennox instead of Fergie's
ex-husband.

CodigoPostal
2024-11-21 18:43:29 UTC
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Post by Travoltron
I finally saw it! I really enjoyed seeing all the cameos in the crowd
scenes.
Post by CodigoPostal
(Anyone else think it was a shame they didn't bring in Cullen for one
final line at the end?)
He should have played Alpha Trion. Fishburne did a fine job, but I don't
really think the celebrity voices did anything to help the box office.
That would have been amazing, and a great passing of the torch. Kind of
like how they brought back the voice of the original Lion-O to play the
father of Lion-O in the underappreciated 2010's reboot.

The celebrities should have brought in the audience, but as we've
clearly seen, outside of the Marvel Universe, the Marvel actors can't
carry a movie on their own (to be fair, few "stars" can do that
anymore).
Post by Travoltron
I could nitpick the things I didn't like, but I mainly didn't get the
ending. Megatron was right to kill Sentinel. I don't get why Optimus
stupidly threw himself in front of Sentinel like that. He wasn't worth
protecting, let alone sacrificing oneself for.
It feels like a last-minute course correction, like they remembered that
Megatron is supposed to be the big bad, and Optimus the embodiment of
Good, despite having spent the entire movie showing Megatron as being
entirely correct and justified in his anger at being betrayed by a
corrupt government.

We can extrapolate that Optimus likely wanted due process, rather than
summary execution and replacement of one tyranny by another, but that
wasn't communicated clearly enough. All we got was "young hothead rebel
gets the Matrix and becomes the new leader" a la TFTM's Hot Rod to
Rodimus conversion.

I mean, frankly, I was cheering for Megatron. Not that any of us could
possibly relate to a government that doesn't care about our needs,
gaslights us, and exploits us. Total fantasy.
Post by Travoltron
I do regret not seeing it in the theater. I had already seen the
disappointing More Than Meets the Eye redub thing in the theater this
year. I felt embarrassed to invite my friends to go see yet another TF
movie that had a high chance of sucking,
I didn't see it in cinemas because it seemed like a kiddie streaming
film. I also regret it. The visuals were gorgeous and would absolutely
have looked great on the big screen.
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