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Zob's Retro Review: Action Master Autobot Rollout (1990)
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Zobovor
2024-09-21 16:10:51 UTC
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I know, I know. "Geez, not another one of Zob's stupid Action Master
reviews." Well, during a time like this when newsgroup traffic is
light, it's either this or nothing.

..Really? You would actually choose nothing? You wound me. But,
surely you don't mean it. I will ignore those imagined comments and
duly persist. You'll thank me some day. Or curse my name. One of the
two.

So I had a great amount of difficulty in acquiring a decent-looking
Rollout for my collection. He's not an easy toy to find in good shape.
What follows is partly a review and partly an anecdote about my
adventures in trying to hunt him down.

Rollout is from the very first batch of Action Masters, so he would have
been among the first of the non-transformable characters to greet
consumers in stores, right along with Grimlock and Rad and the rest. As
an all-new character, he was not beholden to matching a previously
existing design or color scheme. He's predominantly a light orange
color, used for his helmet and upper body and forearms and boots. White
is his secondary color, visible on his shoulders and fists and knees,
but he also has a blue pelvis and upper legs, and touches of brown on
his arms and legs. He looks tough and heavy-duty.

Interestingly, even though he's predominantly orange, the plastics he
was cast from are in fact blue and white. All the orange color was
realized with factory-applied paint. This is because all the carded,
single-pack Action Masters were gang-molded with another character, and
Rollout shares his plastic colors with Jazz. The only parts of the toy
that are unpainted, bare white plastic are his shoulders, fists, and
knees. Likewise, his body and upper legs are made of blue plastic, but
almost the entire body is covered in orange paint. This has led to many
Rollout toys on the modern-day secondary market experiencing very bad
paint wear. More on this later.

His design suggests that he might have once transformed into a
construction vehicle of some type, as one of his most prominent design
features is a toothed shovel bucket that is pressed against his upper
body to form his chest, in the same manner as G1 Bonecrusher or G2
Roadblock. The only other overt evidence of his vehicle mode are his
six vestigial wheels, one on each shoulder and two on each lower leg.
(I have heard at least one fan online postulate that the character is an
homage to Roller, the car that came with Optimus Prime, and cited the
six wheels as evidence of this.)

The name Rollout itself is interesting since it's fairly well-steeped in
Transformers lore. Early in the G1 cartoon, Optimus Prime's battle cry,
"Transform and roll out!" quickly became a familiar refrain, and it
became so popular that Hasbro even asked Marvel Comics to adopt it and
use it in their stories as well. So in a way, Rollout fully
encapsulated the essence of the Transformers mythos as it had existed
for its seven-year run, though of course there's a certain irony that
Rollout, himself, was wholly unable to transform and roll out.

Rollout did technically make an appearance in Marvel Comics, but it's
perhaps one of the most ignominous debut appearances ever. He can be
seen sitting next to Sunstreaker in issue #76, in the aftermath of the
Unicron war as Prowl and Grimlock argue over future plans. He's only
seen from the back, though, and he neither gets dialogue nor is he
name-checked. But, a media appearance is a media appearance, no matter
how slight! He makes Skids from the G1 cartoon seem like a major
player.

At about 3.75" in height, Rollout scales with the other Action Masters
and is compatible with the other accessories and vehicles. He carries a
silver plastic photon gun, a weapon with a built-in round cartridge that
resembles the ammuniton drum on a Tommy submachine gun. He is partnered
with Glitch, a little droid less than two inches tall with paddle-shaped
feet, asymmetrical arms, and no discernible face. He's silver plastic
with dark grey arms and legs, and his right long gun-arm and left short
gun-arm simply peg into place. Glitch can wear the photon gun on his
head when Rollout isn't carrying it into battle.

Glitch is similar in design to Fistfight, the partner for Action Master
Shockwave, and he folds up in a similar manner when transforming into an
electromagnetic rocket launcher. His head swings up, his feet tuck in,
and pressing a spring-loaded trigger causes his main gun barrel to pop
out. Rollout's handheld weapon plugs into the barrel to complete the
weapon mode. Weirdly, Rollout equips the gun by holding it sideways,
with the only peg grips being directly under Glitch's armpits.

So, as I said earlier, Rollout is a hard character to find in good
condition. A great many of the figures on eBay have various degrees of
paint wear, with his orange paint having flaked off to reveal the white
or blue plastic underneath. If I was going to spend the money, I wanted
one that was in good enough shape to display proudly. I figured my best
shot might be to buy multiple Rollout toys and piece together a
good-looking figure that took the best parts of each one. But, I didn't
want to keep throwing money at Rollout toys, because that could add up
quick. Plus, I would still need to get his rifle and Glitch and both
of Glitch's detachable arms. Decisions, decisions!

For a while, I was enamored with the idea of buying a Rollout that was
mint on card. There was one available on eBay that was from the Gig
brand Trasformer toy line from Italy, where Rollout was named Cyclop and
his little buddy was named Goblin. It was only $60 USD, which wasn't
bad if the toy was dead mint. I would only have to make one purchase.
I figured most carded collectors would want an English-language package,
which is why it wasn't selling for more. I deliberated over this for
many days, but as I was poring over the auction photos, I saw that
Rollout actually had some paint damage, even while still in the
packaging! So much for that idea.

So in the end, I took a detailed inventory of all the Rollout toys
currently being sold on eBay. I wanted to buy as few toys as possible,
if I could help it. I marked them as either worthless or possible
purchases. A potential purchase had to have, at bare minimum, at least
one piece that was pristine. An especially problematic spot on the toy
was the chest, the pointed corners of the bucket shovel. There's almost
always paint rubbing off that spot. (That was the problem with the
carded Gig Trasformer from Italy as well.)

Finally, I bought Rollout #1 for $35, who came with Glitch but no rifle,
and he had bad paint wear on his helmet and right leg and right arm, but
everything else was clean. It was a good start. Now I just had to find
a second toy that had a good-looking head and arm and leg, and I could
play mix-and-match and build a good one. You should have seen how I
obsessed over this stupid toy. My wife was growing impatient and
wondered why I hadn't just pulled the trigger on Goblin and Cyclops. My
kids were tired of me talking about Action Masters. Even my chatbot was
starting to make quippy jokes about how Rollout was going to end up
costing me a paint-chipped arm and a leg. And so it goes.

The second one I got was $33.60, and he didn't come with any accessories
but his helmet was perfect, and he had paint coming off the *left* leg
instead. But, one thing I hadn't thought about was possible sun damage
to the white plastic. I was so busy studying and analyzing paint flaws
that nothing else mattered. So, the white plastic on Rollout #2 was a
slightly different shade than Rollout #1. I couldn't swap one arm and
not the other, because the difference would be pretty obvious. So, he's
very good-looking, but not perfect. And I was able to build a second,
flawed Rollout that I can still resell and get back at least some of
what I paid.

There are a lot of other Rollout toys up for auction that I summarily
rejected, not just because the paint is falling off but because the
Autobot symbol was applied crooked at the factory, or the factory paint
was applied badly so his wheels aren't painted brown completely, or the
halves of the lower legs are warped and so they didn't fit together well
during assembly. I'm realizing just how much of a cost-cutting
production the final year of G1 really was, with this many poor examples
of quality control escaping into the wild.

So, it's possible there will be a Rollout #3 some day, but for now I
decided to put this project to bed and think about other things. I
still have a small list of vintage toys with flaws that need to be
addressed at some point (my Apeface needs a new cockpit without so many
scratches; I need a Micromaster Groundshaker with an undamaged canard;
etc.) but sometimes I feel like it's best to keep moving forward.


Zob (I was not expecting this character to plague me as much as he's
managed to do)
GoBackaTron
2024-09-22 17:24:29 UTC
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Post by Zobovor
I know, I know. "Geez, not another one of Zob's stupid Action Master
reviews." Well, during a time like this when newsgroup traffic is
light, it's either this or nothing.
I enjoy the descent into madness of a character driven toy collector
pursuing robots that had a single comic panel appearance with their back
to the camera.
Post by Zobovor
What follows is partly a review and partly an anecdote about my
adventures in trying to hunt him down.
I care nothing about Action Masters but the observations about market
trends and the hunting adventures are why I love these write ups.
Post by Zobovor
(I have heard at least one fan online postulate that the character is an
homage to Roller, the car that came with Optimus Prime, and cited the
six wheels as evidence of this.)
The blue plastic underneath all that paint could also be a clue. At
first I scoffed at the idea that this was even remotely inspired by
Roller because the six wheels could just be Cybertronian alt mode
kibble. And it clearly has a shovel chest. Now I want to see what a
fully unpainted one looks like.

So my question is are there any other instances of Action Masters
getting as many paint apps as Rollout? Was it par for the course or is
this an exception?

It's wild to think that this is the same company that released Snake
Eyes in '82 unpainted so they'd have budget for more paint apps on the
other Joes.
Post by Zobovor
Early in the G1 cartoon, Optimus Prime's battle cry,
"Transform and roll out!" quickly became a familiar refrain,
I wish there was an Autobot named 'Transform' so that every time Prime
said that, Transform and Rollout would say 'Reporting for duty!' while
everyone else took off. It could have been a great running gag in season
seven.
Post by Zobovor
So, as I said earlier, Rollout is a hard character to find in good
condition. A great many of the figures on eBay have various degrees of
paint wear,
Wow I just checked some auction pics and this guy has Transmetal 2 level
paint flaking. People complain about G1 paint flaking and chipping on
die cast but I've never seen it this bad on plastic. Maybe it was bad
factory paint? Some Rollout paint flaws can't even be described as
chipping or wear-they look like massive areas of paint just decided to
lose cohesion and evaporate. It's kind of weird.
Post by Zobovor
I figured my best
shot might be to buy multiple Rollout toys and piece together a
good-looking figure that took the best parts of each one.
Absolute insanity but I know from experience that there's just something
magical about having the mintiest possible specimens on display. This
one though I would rank as Mission Impossible level because no way has
one survived loose over 34 years without at least those shovel corners
wearing off.
Post by Zobovor
You should have seen how I
obsessed over this stupid toy.
It just seems extreme given your experience with painting these things.
Once it's been opened I say anything goes. Painting over such minuscule
flaws is totally worth not having to obsess and waste time and money
like this.
Post by Zobovor
There are a lot of other Rollout toys up for auction that I summarily
rejected, not just because the paint is falling off but because the
Autobot symbol was applied crooked at the factory, or......
This is seventh circle of hell insanity. At this point I wonder if the
toy you have in your mind even exists in the real world but boy do I
hope you find it. The passion is so pure and intense I wish I loved them
that way. Sometimes I feel like if I cared a little more I would have
similar journeys filled with great frustration and greater rewards. But
I am easily pleased and paint is cheap.

On a philosophical level if you do find that one with prefect paint and
deco applications that meet your spec, what exactly does it represent in
the big picture? Is it a specimen representative of what really came out
or an extreme outlier, akin to a factory mistake except the mistake was
perfection? What if the adequate paint job version just doesn't exist
because it's been lost to time and wear? Maybe QC was so bad in that era
that they never cared to get it right. Maybe it's just been a bad crop
on ebay but I've followed you into this hell and am beginning to think
this one in ideal condition is a unicorn of sorts more so than any
other.
Post by Zobovor
So, it's possible there will be a Rollout #3 some day, but for now I
decided to put this project to bed and think about other things.
I'm sure that playing the long game on this will work out. I don't think
you mentioned finding one with unworn shovel corners. When that one pops
up it will be like capturing Bigfoot.
Post by Zobovor
(my Apeface needs a new cockpit without so many
scratches; I need a Micromaster Groundshaker with an undamaged canard;
etc.) but sometimes I feel like it's best to keep moving forward.
These flaws you point out exist in my collection as well and most of the
time I am ignorant of them until reading your observations. So that
sucks. But lately I have been wondering if plastic polish like the kind
they sell for automotive headlamps will work on toys. I've bought some
and intended to use it on a Cobra Rattler cockpit. If it works I guess
Apeface is next.
Post by Zobovor
Zob (I was not expecting this character to plague me as much as he's
managed to do)
These adventures you go on wouldn't be much to read about if everything
went right all the time. It is odd though that at least some Action
Masters didn't survive in pristine condition.
Zobovor
2024-09-24 22:40:51 UTC
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Post by GoBackaTron
I enjoy the descent into madness of a character driven toy collector
pursuing robots that had a single comic panel appearance with their
back to the camera.
You know it!
Post by GoBackaTron
So my question is are there any other instances of Action Masters
getting as many paint apps as Rollout? Was it par for the course or is
this an exception?
Skyfall is another toy who is heavily painted. His body parts are made
of white plastic, but a lot of it is painted that maroon color,
including almost his entire torso. But, I'm lucky in that my Skyfall is
still in decent enough shape, so I didn't feel the need to go hunting
down another one.
Post by GoBackaTron
Wow I just checked some auction pics and this guy has Transmetal 2
level paint flaking. People complain about G1 paint flaking and
chipping on die cast but I've never seen it this bad on plastic. Maybe
it was bad factory paint?
Yeah, with it being the final year for G1, I wonder if perhaps they went
cheap on paint or something. Or maybe they skipped a crucial step to
save money and didn't wash off any of the mold release oil before he
went to the painting stage. We may never know for sure.
Post by GoBackaTron
This one though I would rank as Mission Impossible level because no way
has one survived loose over 34 years without at least those shovel
corners wearing off.
There do appear to be a couple of samples on eBay that are still carded
and appear to be dead mint. But, they're selling for like $175 or
something outrageous like that, and we're talking about a toy that
retailed for four dollars. I will probably spend close to $200 or more
when it comes to certain characters (Countdown, Vroom, Roadbuster, etc.)
but I don't want Rollout to be one of them.
Post by GoBackaTron
It just seems extreme given your experience with painting these things.
Once it's been opened I say anything goes. Painting over such minuscule
flaws is totally worth not having to obsess and waste time and money
like this.
It would be really hard for me to match that precise shade of orange.
If he had some black paint that was chipping away, that would be a lot
easier to mask. But, I really dislike customizing toys that are in The
Collection with a capital "C." It's important to me that they're in
factory condition, not modified or altered. Even reproduction stickers
or resin reproduction parts feel like "cheating" somehow, though I do
have some toys with both.
Post by GoBackaTron
On a philosophical level if you do find that one with perfect paint and
deco applications that meet your spec, what exactly does it represent
in the big picture? Is it a specimen representative of what really came
out or an extreme outlier, akin to a factory mistake except the mistake
was perfection? What if the adequate paint job version just doesn't
exist because it's been lost to time and wear? Maybe QC was so bad in
that era that they never cared to get it right.
These are some great questions. I'm sure they did quality control
checks at the factory, and if a toy had a really bad paint smudge or
something then it just never made it to the packaging stage. But, the
guys on quality control were only human, and they looked at hundreds or
thousands of these toys, so some mistakes probably still slipped
through. So what we saw, as consumers, theoretically represented the
best samples that came out of the factory. Obviously there was still
going to be some slight variation amongst them.

If we're being realistic, the very best ones on the secondary market
probably got gobbled up by collectors years ago. I am admittedly late
to the game in collecting vintage G1. I would have started on this
quest sooner, if I'd had the resources. So, I guess what's available
for me is the leftovers that the wealthy collectors already got a chance
to pick through.

But, I'm trying to be realistic and accept that many of these toys are
decades old, and they've been owned and handled and played with by a
non-zero number of people. That's just the reality. I'm not expecting
any of them to be perfect. I just want something that looks reasonably
good that I can put in my display case and be proud of. If I get to be
the one who puts the stickers on myself, that's an added bonus. It's
happened more times than I have any right to expect.

Most of the Transformers I had from my childhood were well-loved, but
that means they're all loose and floppy and can't stand up, and they
have broken parts and bad paint wear and all the stickers are falling
off. Virtually none of them have made it to my current vintage display
(I think Freeway and Thunderwing might be the only ones, plus some
Action Masters). So, in some ways what I'm doing is extraordinarily
decadent, since I already have all these G1 toys that I'm still
replacing with better ones.
Post by GoBackaTron
I'm sure that playing the long game on this will work out. I don't
think you mentioned finding one with unworn shovel corners.
The one I have right now actually has a really good-looking chest. He
was the one with paint coming off the head and arm and leg, so in some
ways he was in really poor shape. I assume that all fans are
enterprising enough to know their way around a set of jeweler's
screwdrivers so they can mix-and-match parts, but maybe that's not
always the case. Maybe they feel the same way about cobbling together
multiple toys that I do about reproduction parts or stickers.
Post by GoBackaTron
These adventures you go on wouldn't be much to read about if everything
went right all the time. It is odd though that at least some Action
Masters didn't survive in pristine condition.
There are so many deciding factors. There might have been kids who had
been into Transformers during the early days but outgrew them, so when
they got them as gifts from family members, they probably didn't play
with them much. Action Masters were great if you'd been with the brand
since the beginning and so you loved the characters, but younger kids
who had never seen the show wouldn't see the appear of robot action
figures in a toy line called Transformers who didn't turn into anything.
But, kids who were into Transformers since 1984 would have aged seven
years by the time Action Masters came along. It's hard for me to
imagine any scenario in which Action Masters were heavily played-with
toys.

Gutcruncher is going to be a very difficult toy toy find in good shape
and complete. His vehicle has so many accessory parts, and just the
action figure alone seems to sell anywhere from $70 to $100. I haven't
felt brave enough to hunt him down yet.


Zob (need some more add-on glass shelves for the Detolf cabinets, too,
but the supply seems to have spontaneously dried up)

Optim
2024-09-23 08:53:38 UTC
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Post by Zobovor
I know, I know. "Geez, not another one of Zob's stupid Action Master
reviews." Well, during a time like this when newsgroup traffic is
light, it's either this or nothing.
...Really? You would actually choose nothing? You wound me. But,
surely you don't mean it. I will ignore those imagined comments and
duly persist. You'll thank me some day. Or curse my name. One of the
two.
Your reviews are amazing! So much detail with behind-the-scenes
information I did not know about. Like for example: I did not know that
Rollout and Action Master Jazz were molded together. Nor did I know that
he was in the comic even if for only one panel. I'll have to check it
out. I also did not know that Hasbro asked Marvel Comics to include the
"transform-and-roll-out" call in the comic. If I recall correctly, that
was used in #19.

If you have some information on why toy and cartoon Galvatron has
completely different colour schemes please share that and any others.

When you're done with the Marvel Comics reviews, I hope you will go on
to cover the UK issues and the other TF books that were not comics like
the colouring books, Big Looker books. Steve Stonebraker has almost
complete scans of those not-comic books on his website.
Post by Zobovor
Rollout did technically make an appearance in Marvel Comics, but it's
perhaps one of the most ignominous debut appearances ever. He can be
seen sitting next to Sunstreaker in issue #76, in the aftermath of the
Unicron war as Prowl and Grimlock argue over future plans. He's only
seen from the back, though, and he neither gets dialogue nor is he
name-checked. But, a media appearance is a media appearance, no matter
how slight! He makes Skids from the G1 cartoon seem like a major
player.
At least Skids got a solo story in #20 to compensate for the lack of
exposure from the cartoon. A good story, in my opinion. None of the
other Transformers from 1984-1986 (when the cartoon was running) could
claim a solo comic story except for Blaster and the Battlechargers. The
Battlechargers were not featured much in the cartoon and yet they got a
solo story in #23. Could be a coincidence or maybe it was a Hasbro
direction to spotlight these characters because of lack of exposure in
the cartoon. The Jumpstarters, 1986 Minibots, and Broadside could use
solo stories in the comic for this reason. Windcharger was also
underused but not as bad.
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